In addition to the above other reasons for names cutting across castes are: 1. have any one used mind y RAVAN serial was stoped . They fought well but they lost. I you want any type of help regarding Graphic Designing, Video Editing, Video Compositing, 3D Animation, Short Movies etc. Firozpur City -9463301661(Mob. This is the basics you should know and understand. be proud even if u are chamars i am also but justice is equal for all and atrocity on general by dalits should be given same strict punishment as atrocity by general on dlaits are given . Take care. Sharma. DONT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU WHEN THEY BREED LIKE ANIMALS WHO AND WHAT SURNAMES YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE. Tabhi desh me samnta ayegi. May I state that Sandhu, Sidhu, Sahota and Kalsi ARE Chamar surnames as well as Jatt/Tarkhan Surnames. ).We were all victims of the the caste system. Castes are based on profession . I have been reading your exchange with that coward who does not understand Sikhism and caste. You are morbid and ignorant as anybody who would believe you. All i EVER hear them talk about on weddings, funerals or paths is their caste abd how others r jatts, turkans etc. great white shark population graph; clarence gilyard net worth 2020 Jatts and other higher castes are simply proud of their ancestors and have every right to be. some favoured own group given all facilities of enjoyment n others continously were cheated /hated which created havocs /intolerance /fights/ killinngs inhuman acts . Youre taking what the gurus said way too literally. thank u navneet kumar ji we have to strengthen our community by encouraging them. This website is propagating Ravidassias that follow Dera Ballan and the New Amrit Bani. pandu was never designated brahmin though s/o brahmin . hello the great fighter cumunioty of CHAMARS. Unfortunately a majority of Indians dont think like me.. Thats why India will never take a step forward on being equal! Singh is my last name, you must be a Chamar who follow Dera ballan or similar baba, the baba who is responsible for corrupting and brainwashing his followers to believe nonsense. Do your research and see how brahminism is cruel and evil devised by your ancesters for the benefit of brahmins but made against the rest of the population. I also belong to you chamar community and not ashamed but respect my Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Absolute rubbish. Im a proud Sikh Dont become followers, become leaders. both side grand parents ,parents , brothers ,sister n himself were as such as tought no not all it was becoz he sided with sudras n was against brahminsm . RAI KA PARVAT PARVAT KI RAHI SAB HAI BHAI BHAI . or area, If we study the Varna system carefully it would be revealed that originally there were only four varnas. Kalson family is very reputed family of haryana every body knows the kalson sir name in haryana, pls add the kalson sir name is to sirname list of kalson. Add Jaijania,Kataria & Dhirana to your list and plese remove tohse abusing posts from site.Thanx. I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. All bhardwaj are not chamar we also seen bhardwaaj barhman I have seen people with lots of lands and money, still they take benefits of their reserved caste. It is also proposed to get marriages of economically incapacitated marriageable boys and girls of Dalit society with the cooperation of the society. Whoever made this doesnt know anything bout last names. All respectable social people are informed with great pleasure that the construction of a grand temple (gurudwara) of Saint Shiromani Ravidas Ji Maharaj has been envisaged by the social people, in which a Mangal Bhawan is to be constructed along with the Gurudwara. mothers of mahabhata biyash were ganga n satyawati jala/mala/kevat nit was person from same caste who was ferry man of ramchander . Officially, it was created on 1 March 1943, as the 27th Battalion 2nd Punjab Regiment. karnwal kaon si cast me aati hai maloom ho to jaroor batana, ADD GROW GOTRA ALSO. oh realy.agar aap jatt peoples sach mai insaan ho to respect kro har ek castes ki..mariages kro.hatao cast systm ko.. tenu time dasu jatta de putt.fuking bull shit..and u jagdish sharma ur animal.ek time aouga tu brahmin ho k jutte polish karega.. Dont be followers be leaders, this is what our gurus taught us. sir pls add SARANGAL,MEENIA OR{MAHINIA},ANGURALA,JANGRAL,JAREWAL, Is Ramday also a chamar surname.???? none is superior or inferior but deeds make so.in last of dwaperyuga biyas son on of malahin satyavati resulted after rape by parasar grand son of vashisth purohit of dasrath who got 4 sons in old age on same day on blessings of sringi in last of tretayuga was 24th pidhi of harischandra of satyuga (around 500years back) had 4 sons dhritrasra never touched sword / dhanush was akshtriya , impotent pandu was akshtriya , vidur was sudra , sudev was brahmin whoose guru janak was akshtriya where as karan called sutputtra suryavanshi biological son of suryadev supported by the fact that thakur on the horse back passing through gives son to the woman working in field while his wife gets son from hajjam simultaneously. It is a similar situation like Native Americans and Austroloids ( Native Australians) .. SC or dalit people are native tribal communities and were not accepted by migrating Aryan tribes from Brahmins to Shudra , this is the reason they were considered out caste and not assigned any caste which is a traditional Hindu systems. However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. I have made many comments on this subject in this website; he is well advised to read them particularly why caste names are shared across caste under anonymous and the Illuminated. An. Thats pretty hilarious from where I stand. There are thousands of surnames and depending which part of India you live, you will get surnames which we have never heard off. chamar women only love men from the higher castes. Tabhi to Smanta aayegi, Kisi surname k lagane ya hatane se samnta nhi ati. This is why caste names in Punjab for example cut across castes. At the heart of hinduism is caste. youre full of sh..t. thats why it is comming out of your mouth. Your mombojumbo purification ceremonies are also lies. Proud to be chamar. 44% of politicians are Brahmins. He is not really a sikh like you and me but but a hindu who parades himself as a charlalan sikh. ETC, 22 khokar to mazahabi hote h agar punjab side ka ho to btaiyo k atwal kya chamar surname h, Please Add These Also. And it does not necessarily lead to increase in corruption because when Scheduled officers are appointed they often are not connected to their political masters or higher officers, who are often from the higher castes often either Brahmins,kshatriya or Viasha; and thus if they were corrupt they have no higher person to protect them. M so proud of it. Our Bhagats & Gurus done so much for us and know ravidassias are doing the opposite. You will be shocked by the truth. Bains surname vi add kr deyo pls. Chamar is second largest community of india.time to time higher caste converted in chamar for many purpose and reasons so lower caste and higher caste communitys surname are same.we are same. But yes things are changing rapidly. The Gurus, including all the Satgurus before Guru Nanak, started a movement against the caste system, eventually culminating in the rise of the Khalsa order, ie the creation of a casteless society. i want to know onething from you that is divya bharti (late bollywood actress ) & sonu nigam ( singer ) also belong to chamar caste ? The caste system has held back India for centuries untold. Status and caste is what Hindus believe in. Thanks brother. Heer All jatts are not bad but some have to much ego which is against sikhi. Dont you think they should be advised rather forced to change their surnames to some other neutral surnames. It does not hurt to have something in common with the Chamars. Let us clarify the facts based on evidence not prejudice and fiction. There is no such things as caste, we are all human beings. Aur desh aage badhega. treated them like brothers and sisters. Understood. FACE IT, YOU ARE BORN AS UNTOUCHABLES, SCHEDULED CASTE FOR THE EVIL KARMAS WHICH YOU ARE STILL CONTINUING WITH BY TELLING LIES TO PEOPLE AND STEALING THEIR SURNAMES. Prove it and remove our last name from the list!!! :- , - Sandhu is another of those names. INSTEAD OF STEALING HIGHER CASTE NAMES, YOU WILL BE HONEST OF BEING EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE AND THAT IS THAT YOU ARE THE CHAMAARS, THE UNTOUCHABLES, THE SCHEDULE CASTE OF INDIA. People can tell what caste you are by looking at .. ie mannerism, way of speaking, appearance etc. Hindu religion again in the hands of the Brahmins. Click the button above to donate. This included the following surnames: Madarchodo tum pandito ne mandir mein ganta hi bajayaa hai . Famous personality Master Mangu Ram Mugowal (MLA before partition) , Ch. khuttan , bains, paul, kajla, singh, takhi. It is a religion practized before the advent of any other religion. thanks, , yr sidhar vi chamaar hai uska zikar nhi a. No way on this earth .You use by default.I also notice certain Khatri and Brahmin names been passed off as also being chamar names.Using them by default.Fraud .No law against it and nobody can stop you but its false pretences.Its a given that you will deny this and be abusive .Listen..India treated everybody the same.No one got special treatment .In the case of Punjab and Jats,they are not responsible for what happened to you so take your blame elsewhere. Aur agar kisi bhai ko jankari chahiye to mujhe contact kr skta hai on my personal no. i never heard too many surnames in punjab which belongs to dalit community.Are people like to hide their surnames as they know they belong to lower caste nobody will make them freinds or get talk with them.But if it is like that people from lower caste needs to come forward and tell there surnames proudly and if they ask tell them you are ravidassia sikh. According to the 2001 census of India, the Chamars comprise around 14 per cent of the population in the state of Uttar Pradesh[36] and 12 percent of that in Punjab. sare Indian ik ha, Chamar ek gandi ur ashudh caste hai jo bahut gandgi se rehti hai jo suchta se nahi rehti hai chamar ko bhagwan ne upper caste ki service ke liye banaya hai chamar swachta kitna hi rakh le par vo suchta nahi rakh sakti chamar shud caste nahi hai es liye chamar ko koi nahi touch karta hai jai se kio widow subh kam nahi kar sakti usi tarah koi chamar subh kam nahi kar sakta hai, What a. Please tell me which category do Samplays belong to..?? Many of the Hindus who became Sikhs were from the Dalit caste. Tell a slave he is a slave and he will revolt. So you should find a girl of your liking irrespective of caste creed region or religion.You are settled in USA but your thinking and mind set is still of remote backward caste infected villager. my chamar caste and beliefs doesnot allow me to harass other innocent . So please seek help now! So dont try to relate yourselves to us Sikhs. and im a chura chamar of dudley road I. F. S. C. Code no. plz add baldodia sirname also in chamar caste, Please add bajaan and also Bijjan , one and same thng. Second we need eduction and lot of it, How? Tandle. the caste weakness of hindu gave budhism, jainism, christianity islam, shikhism . Shudras and ati shudras need to capture political power for their emancipation. & Date 1. I agree with you. Oh bhai jyaada matt uchal apni caste(chakar) ko lekar. then why is saying, Ik noor say sabh jag upjaa kon bhale kon mande. (Oh yes, we breed, so there is a possibility that you are commenting here and someone from us might be doing your wife/daughter/sister. I ll be really thankful if u ll answer my query..plz make it fast its really urgent ..please, yes,NAR is a sub caste of chamars. Read what the Guru Granth Sahib and the Gurus say on the subject. You should tell your caste boldly and unapologetically. mandiya mausmarti mother brahman+father sudra= issue chandal , mother brahman + father sudra= issue khatri . Guru Nanak and his successors mission is dying because Sikhism is in the hands of castes that are not interested in his mission but have turned it into politics and business for jatts benefit. Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen, STUPIDS As SHRI GURUGRANTH SAHIB JIsay tha there is no caste in sikhism. This shows that the person who had given above information is having no knowledge of castes. We will be the rulers of India. Waheguru will bless you for you you will be a true spoot puttarof sikh Gurus. Yes your right I know jatt from other religions but your ego needs to chill, your still classed as a shudra if you believe in caste lol. The Gurus died and lost all they had fighting for this mission and yes the above imbocile has proved to be a kapoot putter and failed to be sapoot putter of the Guru. #1. And yes if you are so concern about birth control, go join a fucking NGO, why are you wasting your time here! 4.Mamman BHN K TKKE TODAY MOST OF THE CAHMAR ARE ON HIGHER POSTES JUST BCZ OF THEIR TALENT.TU TO HAI HI CHUTIYA SALA. They may call themselves as Ramdassia/Ravidassia sikhs.Those ravidassia chamars who accept the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib as their Holy book and also accept Guru Ravidass as their Patron Saint and also show reverence to the 10 Gurus and the other satgurus ie Bhagats mentioned in the Guru Granth Sahib can also be to be seen Ravidassia sikhs. HOW COME YOU HAVE ADDED THE SURNAMES OF HIGH CASTES IN THIS LIST OF YOURS! Pora taan maan rakho guru di shana da and bal bassan heer summan virk also jatt names. 5. Please read the long comment by anonymous above and the various comments by the the illuminated at various sections since you are jatt sikh. You will be enlightened. District officers have been ordered to issue Caste Certificate to the families of those belonging to these 17 castes. : I believe Chamars and everyone else should have the same opportunities as anyone else in life. .. if my chamar brothers feel awkward then you are responsible for developing these feeling .. remember what is happening is for our own good god wants balance thats why he has given you birth in this caste basis on your Karmas not all rajputs , jatts,khatris etc have good karmas and ie why we are suffering too just be thankfull to God for giving us such a beautiful life , o yar ki .. gal lai aa sab khre hunde aa sale asi jatt kede wade khate aa penchoo anpadta karke he ta hor loki sanuu fuddu kende aa .. .. wadhu zmeena karke sade dmaag khraab aa bas par mai is sab de khlaaf aa mere v chmar dost ya eda di koi gal ni te jeda koi chmaran nu gal kade os jatt di matt he maari oo .. sidha he saab aa .. o fuddu aa , Please add aliyanits my surnameim also chamar from new jersy (usa), |for the|for a|to your|on your} living location, though, you Lets not judge people or anyone without first understanding our Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Padmane. Saru says. Being a chamar does not make you apart of ravidassia religion. It portrays an image of drinking, guns, half-naked women, flash cars etc. Insaniyat ae.. Bhagat Ravidas Ji said he was not Hindu then why do people who claim he is their guru still call themselves Hindu lol. Reservation was to allow them to participate in all sphere of public life and give them representation at all levels of public institutions and share power, which they had been denied for centuries untold. We are all one. But I hate this division of humanity. When Guru Nanak discovered the truth by accepting the sacha sauda gift(the Truth) as a blessing from the Bhagats, he wanted to proclaim this to the world.The brahmins had been telling the Indians of caste system as the truth created by God and even created fictional figures such as Krishna and Ram and others, to legitimise this lie.This lie was challenged many times before but more fiercely when Guru Nanak came along. A few Rajput gotras are also found in Chamar community which is the result of intermixing of some Rajput clans with lower castes to save themselves from the onslaught of Muslim invaders. In Punjab, they are mainly found in Ludhiana, Patiala, Amritsar and Jalandhar cities. Profile. The label race was given by the British because of their martial fighting spirit in the British Indian Army. MOST OF SUDRA W/MEN SNATCHED away BY ABOVE DWIJYAS . Matter of fact all the castes except Brahmin and Khatries, rest of them have the same roots, That is why you find the same last names in the so called lower castes including the Jatts. Unless of course she is lying and her jatt family did give her hard time which would make them the people that are letting the flame burn and the ones that need to get a fucking life .To answer your question, yes of course i would marry off my daughters/ sisters into other castes/ faiths. Every day he touchs the shoes and he does not mind getting poluted. Proudly a CHAMAR! Indians living in the west know how beautiful life is without caste. Dont you think it is not good for them as they are using a great saints name and are indulging in irrelevant activities like drinking, fighting, in some places. Think about it, instead nonsense word s, we should respect one and other. there is no bad if Jatt people proud of their caste history. Jay Guru Ravidas ji Maharaj , Kisi aise area me jaio jhan koi chmar hi na ho fir pta chlega, bro I am feel proud I am a chamar and I am saying chamar are honest people and powerful person In tha world I am to much proud feel I am a chamar and Pls I Read and understand I am not writing prefect english. Ghande toh inshan k avgun hote hai. I mean think about it my punjabi sikh mates tell me that today ramghriya Sikhs work on the fields and most jaats work in the steel and iron industry lol.and if a jaat brags about his caste tell him that jaats were just peasants and they didnt even belong in the vedic system and we shouldnt be proud of our castes because we didnt choose them! kharole Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen there are 2 reasons behind this, 1; why to tell the caste to others and 2; i can know the ideas of other people towards our caste. Even Europe had a caste system where Priests, Kings and Knights were at the top and manual workers were at the bottom. use mind . Or call me at 9888881308 its urgent need 2me. If he see himself as a jatt then he is endorsing the caste system; yet if he is Sikh he must reject the caste. i try to always know that why we used yadav surname .kyuki chamar ke surname ki list me yadav nahi hote h. kyuki yaha k chamar log starts se hi yadav lagate h na jane kitni unki shuru ki pidi (generation )se. there is nothing like (Jaat) in sikhism, Dear Sir/Madam Also for the morons that are going to say my friend/relative who is a chamar is *insert jatt last name. they should proud of their caste but not humiliate to others. sANJAY singh. [59], This article is about the Indian caste. Can anyone please, please tell me..what clan or etnicity could they belong to? We are all brothers and sisters regardless of caste, as Sikhs we do t believe that, its all man made bullshit ! For example many people think that Jatts treat lower castes in a bad manner which is not true. why ayyub pandit of jammu who was lynched was muslim because pandit is purely bramhans, why bhatti chaudhary chavhaan are muslim ?? No there not dumbass. You ignorant woman! 4, 3rd Floor, Dr. Jivraj Mehta Bhavan, Gandhinagar, Gujarat (India). In India everyone is now treated more or less equally and the caste system is not as dominant as it used to be. The Hindus gave him a hard time hence the reason he wasnt called a Hindu so why do chamar who follow Amrit bani respect and practice everything Bhagat ravidas Ji was against lol.. Its sad but my piece of advice is dont get involved in our sikh religion because now you have your own, learn how to respect ppl and their beliefs. Go look up the meaning of the wordI just want to know why the fuck so many Jatt last names are posted there. Plenty of charlatan sikhs like you about. Jatism and Brahminism are sisters.Shame on you for calling yourself Sikh. every single jatt is not brave and strong . @Gurwinder Singh Johal, You could enlist the help of CASTEWATCH UK, which monitors caste based discrimination and will assist you on to your next course of action. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Running a website can be expensive and time-consuming. There is nothing to be proud or ashamed of your so called caste because it is not in your hands in which caste you are born.Why cannot indians understand that they were slaves for.