You may also have some early video & can look at progression through the years. What's the average time for a 100 yard dash? Plyometrics must be included. Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. If you can get a decent 40yd time, youll have little trouble doing 100m. Some non-starters are being recruited by div. Alactic training is maximum intensity work for less than ten seconds followed by enough rest to repeat the effort on the next attempt. Anyway - I asked a D1 coach from a school in Indiana why they use the 60 instead of home to 1st and his answer "I don't know - it is just what they have always used. Had 8 of my 31 players in the sub-5.5 range, and about as many of my linemen at the 6.5+ range. Anyway, as an old one year old: 19.0 To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. Do you know of coaches/programs/locations in the northern IL/western suburbs area that train to the points you make in the article? It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. One of his favorite coaches noted that he needs to work on speed and recommended 10y sprints and 5-5-5 shuttles to work on speed; which we are doing, but Id like to get him in a more regimented, mature coaching structure than just me outside with him and a stopwatch. You nailed it! Your email address will not be published. His team still has that 4'11 and 80# kid, so your son is not miles behind. ". When it comes to midfielders, D1 college coaches tend to focus their recruiting efforts on shortstops, rather than athletes who strictly play second base. So, you multiply 0.096 by 91.44 you get an approximate 100 yard time of 8.78 seconds. As soon as you accept this, it all becomes clear. Pitchers looking to play at the D1 level should aim to reach an ERA below 2.00. FlowCron Calculator; Adagio & Wellness; Adagio & Creativity; Adagio & Empathy "Flow" - The Fourth Musical Element; JRW Inventor; JRW Services; Papers. Im assuming the 40 times posted here for the 9 year old kid were recorded by hand. ?. This comes naturally to him because my wife doesnt eat salty or spicy food either. He was 3rd in road runner in Cooperstown. My best event was the 400m which went from a 60 hand-timed to a 54.15 FAT timed. 20 yard dummy flip (we use 40lb and 70lb dummies but you can use seabags filled with a mix of mulch and sand (dry the mulch out) and you can stiffen the bag with cardboard inside. I do implement sprint training with my combat athletes, as they tend to transfer that into mat area. This is data on times based on thirteen years (since 2009) and just over 3000 kids. And, perhaps the best reason to do this is as follows: little Johnny is a heck of a blocker and perfect for the offensive line. The range of times was from 8.2 seconds to 6.17 seconds with most of them coming in at around 7.3 seconds. If someone gave you that time seriously both you and them are deluded. If the player is not willing to put in time away from the instructor, you are mostly wasting your $$. No one walks or dogs at anything. I use shuttle runs, and a variety of drills and games as well, this was actually the first year I've included hit scores. 200 meter dash: 27.89 We have heard hundreds of stories where someone's son touched 94 last week can you update his profile? It amazes me that this is still not understood (or is it all about not wanting to share the success of the athlete?). Would you have more extended ref timings grid by ages available somewhere ? My point is that freaks can play 2-4 sports. It is impossible for a 9 year old to run a laser timed, 5.45 40 yard dash . I do not. These are an indication of what coaches generally look for, but there will be exceptions. As a freshman, T.J. was my starting quarterback for a team that went 9-0, outscoring their opponents 458-38. 110HH 15.10 FAT So, from a statistics standpoint (and PGStaff could confirm), I would assume that as the further the graduation date (i.e., younger player), the smaller you sample size in the numbers from PG. He had knee surgery the first week of June and was only cleared to run 100% the end of last week. According to the ICCs both the 40-yard dash and vertical jump were reliable assessments for all age groups When looking at the CVs, it can be concluded that the 40-yard dash is more reliable than the vertical jump. For some reason, I can find it via Google but it doesn't work when I copy the link into the post. In my experience of home to first times, 3.0 is more average than fast. Thanks, Coach Gregory for the input, and I will spend some time looking over the article section of your outstanding and very informative web page. 3.9-4.0 you are looking at a 4.9-5.1I ran a 4.46 electronic in high school at the Nike combine and my 10 yard split was 1.50. 100 meter dash: 13.59 By the way, sprinting is the best strength exercise I know. High school sports were covered by the local radio station and daily newspaper. Because of your article I quickly bought agility hurdles instead of the parachute. To keep running for an extended amount of time, athletes learn to compensate to keep going. 2. The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. The 20-yard shuttle (or short shuttle) tests an athlete's lateral quickness and change-of-direction ability. Great post. . But not in weightlifters, even when they have accidents involving massive amounts of weight. I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. Im a believer in specificity. She really wants to study professionally and participate in competitions. Anyway, there's not much more in the link than what I pasted in as the excerpt. I kept a scrapbook, not a Twitter account. Men's Age-Adjusted Running Tables Women's Age-Adjusted Running Tables Other Web Links my home page Coaches Eye works so well with air play to the big screen tv. Any sprint more than five seconds trains something other than max-speed. My son Carters progression goes as follows: 12 seconds is fast for any age in the 100. Age 7 40yd 7.05, LJ 86, SB Throw 886, Turbo Jav 273 You might be the fastest slow person, but that doesnt make you a sprinter. Parents strategize. You might see this as a natural relationship between a football coach and a track coach, but its often the opposite. My take on home to 1st is that scouts tend to collect this information on those kids they think it may make a difference. Im 15 and run a 2.26 20 yd and a 4.8 40 yd, is that average? I cannot emphasize this enough. 7.83 was as a 14yr 8month (my mistake in the prior post). 7.0 before training, 6.81 after a month or so. Dont even bother to time a 40 Yd. John Gash, Santa Rosa 7 19.8 100m 1973, 33-0 800g JT 1974,. I would only add that going to a school with a " strong " HS program can help but only if you arent a bench warmer. There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. What I found especially useful was the information you provided in regards to pulling, climbing exercisesfor example parachutes, uphill climbing. Video must be analyzed. 60 Yard & 30 Yard Dash. I just read about a 13 yr old that has agreed to attend Washington. Ive been on Coach Kanes football staff for eleven years. (35 yard sprints) Participant. Once the weather allows we will do some out door parachute work to work on that time. I think the later bloomers have bigger jumps at the HS ages. I like to steal Tony and Chads phrase speed grow like a tree. Truer words were never spoken!! Im a college sprint coach and my son plays multiple sports and he likes to train and get faster. I had several in the 4.0 range including a 10 year old @135lbs. A 2020 study tested the . Though you almost always have to sprint or workout to be actually fast. In todays era of slow motion video on every iPhone, its inexcusable to train without video. I would also mention that if you have the opportunity to see players race against each other at the 20 yard distance, it's helpful. Sprints must be timed. Soccer is an endurance sport. The tables presented here age-adjust running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups both male and female. You get a feel for when they added velocity &how their physical growth tracked along with that. The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. I will say that he played his first games on a 90ft diamond in the last month and I noticed that his speed helped him stand out even more. He plays baseball, soccer, flag-football, and basketball. Clayton was taught to sprint by his dad, one of the best track coaches in the state of Illinois. John Ross holds the official electronic record at 4.22 seconds. The sprint to first base test is also over 30 yards, and involves running a maximum sprint from home to first base. 3.5 years 36 seconds Before kids learn to multiply and divide, theyre playing soccer against teams from other towns. Id say the best way to get a base is to look over research. Video must be analyzed. Does anyone know what the average college time from home to first is? At 18 I was our fastest pitcher at 7.2, but most position players were well under 7. Without sprint training, soccer breeds horrible sprint mechanics and slow runners. He's a good running back too, but you really want him on the OL. 0.5 sec per year from age 11 until 15.Then, 0.2 sec thereafter. Look for a sprint coach who believes in alactic training. The best we have seen is 81 last year. Im fortunate to be 20 miles from Plainfield, IL. The sophomore dropped from a 7.2 to a 6.8 electronic. My assumption is that thereis a significant increase in participants within the same graduation class over time to their Jr year. I have been telling school sports coaches to use their track coach for 30 years! Hi, Strength relative to your body weight matters. He tops out at 85. Deion Sanders at the 1989 NFL combine ran a 4.27 second 40 yard dash. They were 10 last year. Find someone who has a true track and field sprint background. All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. Current Visitors: 158 (0 members, 158 guests). Another problem that arises in adolescence is the major discrepancy in maturity. Sorry about the link. To defend the 60, I would not want to be the guy running a true home to 1st drill. You mention pulling pushing climbing as badwhats your opinion on resistance bands? Sprinting doesnt happen during a seven-mile run. Most running backs clock it times between 4.40 and 4.70, with some running in the 4.30's and some running higher than 4.70. I have run through 40yd to compare acceleration to top speed theres always a 0.7-0.8 difference for me, so dont believe the site that compares an insane 11 second and I repeat insane 100m to a 4.85 40yd. This means for the 60 yard dash: 9.5 sec age 11 9.0 sec age 12 8.5 sec age 13 8.0 sec age 14 7.5 sec age 15 7.3 sec age 16 7.1 sec age 17 6.9 sec age 18 9/27/163:34 PM 0 Original Post Replies sorted oldest to newest RJM HSBaseballWeb member since 2007 Plyometrics must be included. Question: the average 50 yard dash sprint times for 12-13 year olds is 5.44 seconds worth standard deviation of 0.34 seconds. Most people over 60 I know couldn't jog 40 yards without passing out. Any udpates on your son's 60yd this year as a 17 year old? We have a puppy thats added incentive to run faster! Amazing! go to da moon copy and paste. Compensations become habits. A 60 yard dash time between 67 69 usually equate to an average runner on the playing field. Of around 50 kids (almost all of them are athletically gifted as this is academy level Soccer). The scores to the left are average times and the score to the right is the best score I have seen in that drill. Thank You for the article. 1.41 meter long jump He's a catcher and was always being taken out for other players who play lessto get some base running in. My 10yr old daughter ran the 80metre dash in 9.32secs. I think he was like thesmart kid who does poorly in standardized tests until somebody gives him basic techniquefor time management, guessing strategy, etc. Outfielders: Should cover ground, field anything hit to their position and make strong accurate throws.-Height: 5'10''-Weight: 175 lbs.-60 Yard Dash: 6.8 or below-Home to 1st: Right-Handed Hitter: 4.2 or faster, Left-Handed Hitter: 4.1 or faster Boys in the same age group run about 4 to 5 seconds faster than the girls. Wind-aided though. My kid goes to a very aggressive school with a strong sports program with a history of kids being recruited to play in college. A "Good" 10-Yard Split Time (1.56-1.59) Gaines Adams, Buccaneers: 1.58 (2007) Derrick Harvey, Jaguars: 1.59 (2008) An "Average" 10-Yard Split Time (1.60-1.62) Kamerion Wimbley, Raiders: 1.60 (2006) Bruce Davis, Patriots: 1.62 (2008) A "Below Average" 10-Yard Split Times (1.63-1.69) Charles Johnson, Panthers: 1.63 (2007) Neat thing is that he is starting to hit with alley power. (gots to make money right). Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. As Tom Petty says, Never slow down, never grow old.. Next some stats of what they did in high school. A good 1 mile time for a man is 06:40.This is the average 1 mile time across men of all ages. purpose: The aim of this test is to determine . Based on the age of the athlete, 0.4 - 0.7 s and 4 - 14 cm changes in the 40-yd and VJ, If that's on a hand time then you can typically add. You can then take these views & see how it translated to the pro game after they signed by looking at their stats. Or what? And I dont have an amazing start. Speed is definitely a skill. Sprinting is never achieved in high-volume situations. Make sure sprinting is timed. As far as times go, if your roster is set, then it really is only relative to your team. In my opinion, the best indicator of sprint ability is max-speed. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. These are the fastest kids in the city. We live in Palm Beach, Florida. Got this from coach Jackson at Poteet a while back. The hours-long investigation compared the 40-yard dash times given to high school recruiting sites by 203 players with the 40-yard dash times recorded by those same athletes at the NFL Combine . Interesting information. Thanks lot. 5 years and 2 months 22-28 seconds. Average time by position [ edit] According to a five-year NFL combine report, wide receivers and cornerbacks had the fastest average times at 4.48, followed by running backs at 4.49. I completely agree with Tony. I have an 8 year old son now and I am trying to not repeat those mistakes with him, but he seems to have a more is better natural mentality. Thanks for reading and sharing this. Aside from measurables, what else do D1 college coaches look for in a third base recruit? The 30 yard dash (27.432 meters) is part of the SPARQ rating system for baseball, and their protocol is listed here. It's cheaper and more fun for the boys. Chad Lakatos coaches at Edwardsville High School. Hi Tony, I just found this great article after I timed my nine-year-old son and the 40 yard dash. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. Shuttle runs are better. If this kid ran a legit 5.7 40 as an 8 year old, I have ocean front property in AZ you can buy. When can they train and actually work on speed? Similarly, the average 20-yard split was 2.61 seconds at the combine and 2.62 seconds at their pro days. In fact Ive seen kids quit and not play in college because theyve been falsely pumped up by athletic enhancement gurus or AAU coaches and when they didnt get a D1 offer they thought lower levels were beneath them. Same with basketball. This article is misleading at best. I was not fast 4.8 40yd. This is a link to my Youth Development page (I need to update it as I have a lot more links and info to add just need to find the time). P.S I have never had sprint training just playing soccer, basketball, tennis, football, and skiing. What is the best way for high school catchers to market themselves to D1 college coaches? SF. I've run across lots of D1 recruits that don't even have a PG profile, much less a bunch a great numbers posted. Physical therapist Vien Vu presents the pros and cons in this product review. No way an 8 year old can run this fast. Its 8th grade so its a crap shoot every year. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. I run a two week camp in the summer. Tim has always promoted my speed training. 42 23.4 (leadoff). In my experience Ive not seen one kid specialize that went on to the level they thought they wanted to go to! What does a D1 baseball pitcher look like? Considering though that shes only in the 50th percentile so far as height, that seems pretty solid. While the cornerbacks weren't as fast as the receivers at the 2019 combine, the defensive group did have 15 times below 4.50 in the 40-yard dash and 12 prospects with a vertical of at least 38 inches. It will probably be next summer before mine is in the high 6s where things will plane out from there. Go to some games? Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. Age 6 40yd 7.19, LJ 83, Softball Throw 694, Turbo Javelin 2510 Has nothing to do with youth times, but my son's teammate on his college summer team ran a 6.34 and 6.40 sixty at the league showcase on Tuesday. He is too young to join most of the soccer teams( at least in my town) though in couple of months he will be playing in a soccer team. Whats new with Kinvents third-generation KForce force plates? Tony retired from teaching chemistry after 38 years in the classroom and has 39 years of coaching experience (football, basketball, and track). We can't be very reliable if we report something we didn't actually see. The gap is smaller between elite females and non-elite males, but it's still insurmountable and that's ultimately what matters. The 20 yard dash test: Procedure: (seconds) 1. Lol. Thanks for your attention! Parents invest. Get focused on skill development. 95 sec age 11 90 sec age 12 85 sec age 13 80 sec age 14 75 sec age 15 73 sec age 16. [19] References [ edit] This year I was trying to compile times and weights of my players in an attempt to formulate Hit Scores. Since youre herewe have a small favor to ask. Our favorite two segments to analyze are 0-20 and 10-40, and the formula for success is uncomplicated: ii.lxx seconds from 0-20 yards and three.00 seconds from ten-forty yards. This is a eight-year study. I would guess my son is a late bloomer by about 2.5 years, at 5'9, 130lb now. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Track & field can be a life long sport, if youre not doing killer-mentality training at age 14, thus wearing out parts. JavaScript is disabled. New PR for overhand velocity. Stop when any part of runner crosses finish line. 63 & 64 mph!!! Endurance athletes are efficient, not fast. Record two runs to determine fastest time. Is this a reasonable expectation of improvement year over year as the player gets older and matures? 20-80 Measurables. I don't look for just straight line speed numbers, I use a variety of methods during evals. Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach, shares how athletes can catch the attention of college coaches in the video below. The player starts in a three-point stance, runs 5 yards to their right, touches a line . Go Get Faster Anyway (A Four-Week Speed Training Plan), Curved Treadmills: Pros and Cons That You Should Know, Top 10 Resistance Band Exercises Athletes Should Use, CVASPS Seminar Q&A Series: Boo Schexnayder, Preventing ACL and Achilles Injuries with Elastic Strength Training, Cody Hughes: Student-Athlete Preparation Podcast. If I had to guess, I'd guess he got recruited as a pitcher. The first half of the run is pretty much in line with our rough expectations. He ran a 6.82 at a showcase (laser timed) on 4 June, so he is attending another one next week in the hopes of getting down to 6.7would be nice to hit that time since he just turned 17. I had to wait for mine to buy in before I was willing to spend the $$ ( he is 14). If sprinting is not timed, its not sprinting. A closer look, however, reveals Clayton is different. What will often separate recruits in the mind of coaches is how serious a prospect takes their sport. There isnt any time to train. It makes a big difference. I am not sure if I have an incredibly fast 10 year old kid or what; however, my son ran a 40-yard dash at 5.1 seconds. I Reckon I Am 11 And I Can Run 32kph in speed not distance. I provide you these #s just as an illustration for what is possible in a short period of time. If the athlete can discover but one-hundredth of a second, they suspension 4.70. The link doesn't seem to beworking - for me, anyway. Coaches are going to begin looking at prospects as soon as they are physically developed enough to give a reliable estimation of how they will project as an 18- to 21-year-old player. The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. The pressure is evident even in practice. That is, there are far fewer players attending PG showcases and having a 60 time recorded at the younger age than the metrics reported in the older ages. But the kids that are there get better faster. He is currently 5 years and 2 months. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. Great time, man. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/ATHELTIC_SPEED_TIMES_FOR_KIDS_Age_5_to_14.docx. The pressure is too much for many kids and they transfer. For . The run just seems to be so critical now for a position player & we do not think twice about paying for hitting or pitching instruction, but proper run mechanics & training can have a major positive impact here. Smoke, he met with the coach once, then worked out maybe 4 times on his own. She is a third baseman. The 60 - especially with the split times being taken at PG - is a good measuring stick. My 3 yr does nothing but run around my 8,200 sq foot facility. Hi, I dont know what to think of this race times that you wrote My son ran 100m race with 4 Years and two weeks for 26 seconds? He is the standout player in every sport that he plays and just wants to get better. He ran the 6.34 first.the scouts all thought they timed him wrong so they had him run again. The grind has nothing to do with sprinting. If it is something extra good, we follow up. My 7-year-old daughter is very good at sprinting 100 meters. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? I didnt compete against teams from other towns until 7th grade. 63 In 2014, Russell Wilson ran for 849 yards on 118 carries. The biggest issue with the little kids has been the size of the field and swinging the BBCOR bat. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. No entrepreneurial coach should put training in conflict with playing multiple sports. We had three kids that were all fast, but when we put them head to head, the results were different from their individual 20 yd sprints. I would encourage you to have him not work with anything lighter than a drop 5, going from a drop 10 to a drop 3 has been really tough for many of the smaller kids. Getting evaluated by a trusted third-party or a current coach will provide an objective assessment of how a recruit measures up against scholarship-level athletes in relation to these guidelines. After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. He's 6'1 and about 170still has a lot of filling out to do, so I'm sure his time might get down a tad bit more before its all said and done. She runs 100 meters in 14 seconds. Last week, when I told a track coach to bring their football coach to TFC-4, the track coach replied, We have a better chance of developing cold fusion.. Did the timer say "go" or start the clock when the runner started? Always possible that he touched 94, unfortunately we didn't see it. I think the 60 is not a baseball measurement anyway. 16 year old Boy/Girl twins, 14 years old Girl, and 9 year old Son. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Keep in mind: When watching prospects, college coaches are constantly trying to project how well they are going to do at the college level. 100M 11.71 HH My daughter is 5 years and 8 months now and ran an 8.5 today. The 40-yard dash isn't a track event. I have timed over 200,000 40s in my coaching career. This section breaks down divisional recruiting guidelines to give recruits and their families a better understanding of what will be expected of them at each position. Luckily, there are several. Ive seen 58 11 year olds who are studs but never get significantly better. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I am member of US lacrosse and football USAA certified coach in both. The tables presented here "age-adjust" running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups, both male and female. Of course anything faster is considered above average. I dont want to over train him. Hand held time. Recruiting guidelines are just that: guidelines. Even if times are not improving, sprinting pays off. Edwardsville won the Illinois 3A (big school) title in 2015 and placed 2nd in 2012, 2014, and 2016. (Save the 400m for a later date) . 2002-2023 NCSA College Recruiting All Rights Reserved. I feed the flame and it becomes fire, I feed the fire and it becomes a roaring blaze" - Cus D'Amato, 1908-1985. Less is more. I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. None of those 169 draftees, other than Caleb Benenoch (his published splits point to a possible error at the second gate), were able to break 2.00 seconds from 20-40 yards. But wait, this kid will run a 3.8 by the time hes 15 right? John Ross holds the official electronic record at 4.22 seconds. Most importantly, the mechanics of proper stride, arm swing, start position, body angle & several other factors have now been added to his run mechanics moving forward. Especially with a stupid sport coach that beats the hell out of the players. 10 and 20 are what I look at the most when I eval kids.